Have Your Say: Ex Universal Medicine student, ‘Y’ speaks.

Y was involved with Universal Medicine for several years as a true believer before making a clean break from the group. In an interview I ask Y about their life as a student, what prompted them to leave and how Y’s life has changed since. As you’ll read, Y’s story is starkly at odds with UM’s usual public relations blather.

Y attended a number of Esoteric Healing and Livingness courses and received treatments with Esoteric Healing practitioners at an average of 3 per month during their involvement. Y estimates they spent an average of $6000 per year on Universal Medicine workshops treatments and products. (For comparison’s sake we have reports of some students spending more than $10,000 per person per year, and Y told us fellow students were travelling to workshops in all three Universal Medicine hubs each year between Australia, Vietnam and the UK, which would raise that figure significantly.)

We wonder whether the expenditure of time, money, emotion and energy was worth it.

Venus: You were very involved. It must have been difficult to get out. What made you decide to leave?

Y: – the decreasing social life, the abandoning of every pranic person, and  the conflict with my parents, who got it much sooner than I did

– Also, in my esoteric student time, I developed a serious illness and ‘quelle surprise’ I  only went to esoteric practitioners for treatment and handed over a lot of money, not believing doctors could help me. All was put in esoteric context (I did it too)…it’s about the energy you think in… and in the end, after nothing healed and got worse, I went to hospital and was diagnosed with (deleted for confidentiality).

– in hospital, no one from the esoteric group came to visit me. Scared of the energies? Not as love-filled as I thought? Don’t pander as Serge says? Interfering with another person’s pranic rhythm is toxic as Serge said? Whatever, they were not the friends I thought they were and the esoteric therapies kept me from seeing a doctor sooner.

During the second (!) hospital stay, I called my mother and partner and asked them to throw everything esoteric in the dustbin and delete all esoteric accounts. No one from the group asked at any time how I was doing. I’m still waiting, but I know they won’t.

– I was already skinny and lost 5 kg including all muscle tone and looked anorexic while doing the esoteric work.

V: Have you gone back to the way you lived before UM, or is your lifestyle different? For example, do you listen to music you used to like again? Are you still strict with food?

Y: I have gone back to my previous pranic lifestyle. Listening to Queen and Coldplay for the first time again felt like heaven. I got back to my pranic weight, a little more than before actually and enjoy saying ‘this food is sooo pranic’ before eating it. I can’t stand some fiery foods anymore, like nuts, because I ate them over and over again in the esoteric times.

V: Did you find the esoteric therapies beneficial, as in, did they make you feel physically well or help any symptoms of illness you had? How did they make you feel?

Y: They did not improve any symptoms of illness, let alone make them go away.

The therapies were relaxing and I calmed my mind by saying that true healing was taking place. I told my whole life story there for nothing. 

V: How did you feel after the workshops?

Y: I thought I was totally love-filled and had found the absolute truth. When I think about it now, it was all BS.

V: How much time did you spend reading Serge’s books daily?

Y: Up to 1 hour. I threw away EVERY pranic book and music CD I had. I was told if I sold them it would have added to my Karma, because I would have sold loveless pranic energy and it would come back to me.

V: Did you read Serge’s books more than once?

Y: I had every book and read them all approximately 3 times.

You told me you listened to one podcast presentation per day for the several years you were involved, so was that one hour daily?

Yes, 1 hour minimum. 

V: How did you feel listening to the podcasts? Did they make you feel relaxed? Any other observations of your moods or thoughts while listening or after listening are helpful.

Y: They were my favourite, Serge’s charm and sense of humour lit up my day. I would rather vomit than listen to them now.

V: Did you have clearing symbols at home? How many?

Y: I had every available clearing symbol and used them daily. I had five of the large Extractor 1 and three of the mini ones. I lost my Personal Symbol once, so I had to buy it again.

V: How did you use the clearing symbols? Did you place objects on them or just put them in your home? Did you sit or lie on them? Did you feel anything happen when you used them? 

I did not feel anything when I used them. I thought, I’m not clear enough yet to be able to feel it, but trusted it would work.

Every symbol has its specific meaning. Extractor 1 is for clearing objects. I had one for clearing money and receipts. I used them on everything.

The House Clearing Symbol had to be used with a candle. I and every esoteric person I knew used it weekly at home and took them on holidays and to residential workshops. 

V: What do you think of all of this now that you are no longer a follower? Do you still use any of the products or practices?

Y: I no longer use any of the products (or practices). I would have never thought I could be brainwashed so easily. I feel a lot of shame about it, especially towards former friends and my brother. I tried to recruit them, but they didn’t buy into it.

V: Do you ever still think of things as pranic?

Y: Yes, and I enjoy the pranic things very much.

V: Do you still listen to Chris James’ music?

Y: No. Too airy fairy or lovey-dovey and all his texts are related to the esoteric.

V: How is your health now? Are you still being treated?

Y: I am still being treated medically, but the illness is the best it’s been and I’m pretty happy about it. 

We’re happy about that too. Welcome back Y. Thanks, stay well and keep in touch.

4 thoughts on “Have Your Say: Ex Universal Medicine student, ‘Y’ speaks.

  1. Thanks Y for sharing your traumatic experience and giving others a warning with the benefit of your hard earned lessons.It is unfortunate that this seems to be how the group operates. We are aware of other cases where members have become ill and have been forsaken by other students and also the practitioners. Perhaps they believe the ill person is beyond redemption, or they understand that their 'cures' don't work and is a reason for this abhorrent behavior; or maybe it is that and a combination of avoidance of 'enjoining' as you suggest, we don't know. But it is surely lacking in basic compassion and empathy which is very disturbing and disappointing.Good luck and wishing you the best of Health.

  2. Perhaps we should contrast Y's story with an extract from one of Eunice the famous esoteric surgeon/recruiter/enabler apologist's lengthy maxims:

    "In this (the modern medical) system, patients are devoid of responsibility for their own health and dependent upon the doctor to fix or cure them and thus they are disempowered. However, with the development of different paradigms of understanding the manifestation of illness and disease we are able to consider another way of understanding illness and disease – one that does not render the person a victim but is instead empowering and encourages them to take responsibility for their health."

    Yes, EUNICE, Y took responsibility. Y stuck with the Eso healers until the suffering became unbearable and Y empowered themself to ditch the bullshit and the lot of you callous bastards and go to a hospital.

    "Esoteric healing and esoteric medicine are situated within the holistic paradigm and are inclusive of all dimensions of the human person – no aspect is left out."

    Except for wellbeing, dignity and the requirement for responsible, qualified healthcare.

    "The emphasis in esoteric healing and esoteric medicine is in understanding the true nature of the human person (which is Love) and how we can develop ways of living and being that are aligned with that and which lead to harmony or equally if contra to that can lead to disharmony or illness and disease."

    Yes, Y has shown us the life threatening consequences of esoteric 'Love'.

    "So if we are self-loving, nurturing and caring in a deep way on a daily basis, address all our past hurts and wounds along with all the ideals and mis-beliefs we carry about ourselves and life, the more we will be able to develop a truly harmonious body."

    Yes, Eunice, clearly. And to hell with anyone else. I've said it before to you lot – your self-loving is so complete, it never externalizes to include anyone else. Your self loving is very evident when you and your 'healers' are taking vulnerable people's money and ignoring their symptoms. Your self loving is even more evident in abandoning patient like Y in their hour of need. ALSO, where are the Sergeproppers now? I'll tell you. They're all over on the loveblogs collectively wetting their pants trying to outdo each other with outrage that David Millikan gave them a reality check, and giving each other esoteric back slaps for attacking Lance's character and making baseless accusations of abuse. Anything but acknowledge the harm done to people like Y by Universal Medicine. Anything but express authentic concern, compassion and love. Y could have been any one of them. Hypocrites.

  3. I'm not a crier, but I can see how someone would cry over this. It just pisses me off that the UMers can carry on about being loving and treat anyone like that. They're so full of shit. I read some of their blogs too. All they care about is themselves. Then wonder why people hate them. Maybe it's better they don't allow comments from people like me on their sites. They wouldn't like what I have to say.Hey Y, you know it already, but you're better off without them. wWith friends like them who needs enemies? Get well soon.

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